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Author Topic: why didn't natural selection only leave pretty people?  (Read 22 times)
Lillian_Karak
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« on: April 29, 2011, 05:10:59 PM »

serious question i was wondering about guys
we all know evolution, survival of the fittest, etc
it's powered by whoever's genes have reproductive advantages over others' of that species get passed on to the next generation more.
prettier people have sex more often (scientifically, right?)
so by now everyone should be pretty and ugly people should have been phased out by natural selection. but that didn't happen

i was just seriously wondering why it's not like that. i'm not saying that it's right or wrong, of course
i just thought that beauty is a trait too so it would be improved over many centuries, wouldn't it?

but you know, i guess it kind of did. cavemen were quite ugly but people look prettier these days than cavemen from millions of years ago (well, how long ago did cavemen live?)

i'd like to know your opinions
thanks! =)
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Natalie
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« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2011, 05:53:56 PM »

Ugly people have sex too. Just saying...
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Dave_Graham
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« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2011, 01:55:27 AM »

because there's somebody for  everybody regardless of looks.
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li4sacanty
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« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2011, 02:20:24 AM »

sometimes 2 pretty people have ugly kids.
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Max_G
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« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2011, 07:40:35 AM »

because ugly people have a wack in the sack also i suppose.
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stoned_on_nutmeg
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« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2011, 11:55:18 AM »

Because evolution is a lie.
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lala
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« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2011, 04:26:08 PM »

Beauty belong to eyes of the beholder
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Chaz_W
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« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2011, 06:48:24 PM »

Ugly people can be smart and sometimes being smart is all you need to get laid.

The there are stupid ugly people. They usually have no problem getting laid either.

I'm surprised you had not thought of that.

Which sort are you?
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William_P
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« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2011, 07:03:28 PM »

Because Lions eat pretty people too.

First of all, I'd question your assertion that pretty people have more sex.
 watch this.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSROlfR7WTo

Seriously, being "Pretty" is not a reproductive advantage as much as being more intelligent, or being a faster runner.

Also, Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, as they say, and is a subjective trait, not something you can easily classify in a rigid scientific manner.

AND.. Since Man has come to rely on technology for survival, natural selection has been thrown mostly out the window
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AndiGravity
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« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2011, 07:38:50 PM »

Why on Earth would you conclude that natural selection would "phase out" people you don't find attractive?

First, your thinking is sort of built on the false assumption people will only pursue an "ideal" mate and will forsake all other partners in favor of that single-minded pursuit.  We know that isn't the case.

As much as it may defy common sense at first, people do not always pursue the person they think is the most attractive.  In fact, they frequently do not, especially if they do not consider themselves ideal.  Instead, people tend to choose someone they consider to be close to themselves in physical attractiveness.  Males are a bit more prone to going after the pretty girl, but not so much that it throws the whole process off.

The reasons why this is the case are simple enough.  People tend to be smart enough to know when they don't have a shot in Hell of scoring, getting rejected hurts their feelings, and they don't want to waste time getting their feelings hurt.  So, they tend to pick people they think they might have a shot at.  Long story short, most people want sex bad enough that they'll eventually opt for the person who'll let them get a good f**k on, even if they aren't amazingly beautiful, rather than skip getting sex to try and get someone more beautiful.

Remember, natural selection isn't about what you think is best, it's about what churns out the most babies.  If going after the prom queen makes zero babies, and settling for the ho-hum girl with glasses who got through high school on her parents telling her she was a very special girl inside cranks out a dozen, guess which reproductive strategy gets passed on?

Besides, physical attractiveness is a personal thing.  What you might find attractive, someone else might find disgusting.  My brother has been married twice.  I am assured by others that he chose very attractive women both times.  I would rather have my hand smashed with a hammer than touch either one of them.

Do you like guys or girls?  Skinny or chubby?  What body type do you prefer?  Do you like to see a lot of muscle, do you just prefer average, or are you into beanpole thin?  What color hair do you prefer?  What color eyes?  If you're into guys, do you prefer them clean-shaven, or with some type of facial hair?  What about body hair?  Turn-on, or turn-off?  What about hairstyles?  What about wearing make-up?  What about their fashion sense?  Do you think beauty marks are attractive or ugly?  Do you prefer short or tall people?  Do you prefer to date members of one race over another?  Are there any races you think are unattractive?  Are white people attractive to you?  Asians?  Native Americans?  Black people?  

What about body art?  Do you like tattoos?  Piercings?  Ritual scarring?  Tribal cultures in Vietnam, the Sudan, and the Congo think it's attractive to sharpen the teeth to points.  Do you think that's attractive?  What about necks?  The Paduang of Burma think stretched necks in women are sexually alluring.  Do you think stretched necks are sexy?

Attraction is a very complex thing, and it is often the case that what puts one individual or group in the mood to thump like bunnies will make another want to vomit (which itself makes some people want to get their groove on as they wallow around in it... if you're morbidly curious enough to want to know more about it, google the term "emetophilia").

So, it may also be the case that the people you find unattractive haven't been weeded out of the genome yet because not everyone thinks you have good taste.
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Dee_licious
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« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2011, 07:46:21 PM »

It's really important to understand how evolution and "survival of the fittest" work. If they phased out every undesirable trait, there would be no more genetically inherited diseases, no more unintelligent people, and no more "ugly" people. Unfortunately, the world isn't a perfect place, and genetics doesn't work like that. People with genetically undesirable traits still have sex, and these traits get passed on. I'm sure you've heard about people with genetic diseases getting married and having kids. It works the same way with traits that may be considered "ugly" or unfavorable-they still get passed on and sometimes they can even skip and reappear in the next generation. Also, as someone else said, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. This is especially true for women-it has been proven that although there are certain characteristics that men find attractive in women, women vary in what types of men they are attracted to. So, for example, although you may think black hair is attractive, your best friend might like blondes, so both hair colors would have an equal chance of being passed on from an evolutionary standpoint.
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